Foreign Nickel

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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby dpwozney » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:53 am

currencydebasement wrote:Yeah, everything has a tolerance. I'd like to find the actual regs for Canadian nickels, I wonder what their tolerance is.

This RCM page claims that the 1955 to 1981 nickels have a composition of 99.9% nickel.
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby henrysmedford » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:10 am

Thanks for starting this thread. As you know my son Franklin who has autism love coins but has a hard time reading . So I am putting together photos of the one that he has a chance of finding in coin bins and coin counters. I thought this might be helpful to others as well as him.This is a work in progress .


ALGERIA 5 dinars 1972-84
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BAHAMAS 25 cents 1966-89
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BELGIUM 10 francs 1969-85
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BELGIUM 50 francs 1987-2001
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BRASIL 50 centavos 1967
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CANADA 5 cents (100%) 1922-42
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CANADA 5 cents (100%) 1946-50
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CANADA 5 cents (100%) 1955-81
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FRANCE ½ franc 1965-2001
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FRANCE 1 franc 1960-2001
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FRANCE 2 francs 1979-2001
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby 68Camaro » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:46 am

I would like to see a chemical analysis of a French franc. Maybe I'll see if I can a local lab to try a XRF analysis as an experiment/calibration of their equipment.
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby aloneibreak » Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:38 pm

that 5 francs is not nickel like the other francs though..

its nickel clad CuNi
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby henrysmedford » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:10 pm

Got these at 7 cent each at the LCS junk tray---
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby Numis Pam » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:10 am

henrysmedford wrote:Thanks for starting this thread. As you know my son Franklin who has autism love coins but has a hard time reading . So I am putting together photos of the one that he has a chance of finding in coin bins and coin counters. I thought this might be helpful to others as well as him.This is a work in progress .


ALGERIA 5 dinars 1972-84
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BAHAMAS 25 cents 1966-89
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BELGIUM 10 francs 1969-85
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BELGIUM 50 francs 1987-2001
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BRASIL 50 centavos 1967
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CANADA 5 cents (100%) 1922-42
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CANADA 5 cents (100%) 1946-50
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CANADA 5 cents (100%) 1955-81
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FRANCE ½ franc 1965-2001
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FRANCE 1 franc 1960-2001
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FRANCE 2 francs 1979-2001
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FRANCE 5 francs 1970-2001
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Thanks Joe!!! This will be great for me to share with my grandkids! Keep up the good work!! :clap: :thumbup:
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby mtalbot_ca » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:44 pm

I am telling Joe, you should write a book....

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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby Klark Cent » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:28 pm

very informative thread!

thx
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby henrysmedford » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:54 pm

Out of the junk tray today. We paid 7 cent for 1 franc and 6 cent for the 1/2 franc
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France 1 Franc 1960-2001 6g Ni ♦ $0.10410
France 1/2 Franc 1965-2001 4.5g Ni ♦ $0.07808
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby mtalbot_ca » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:27 pm

Nice!
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby henrysmedford » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:44 pm

So today we tried something new. We brought a large magnet to the coin shop and went fishing for nickel in the foreign coins as we can buy at 6 cents each. After five minutes heres what we got. It went quick just had to look a the nickel looking coins that the magnet got.

Found one of these. Not are photo--
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby scyther » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:24 pm

Is there a type of magnet that will attract nickel but not steel?
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby fansubs_ca » Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:31 am

scyther wrote:Is there a type of magnet that will attract nickel but not steel?


Nope, stuff is either magnetic or not. The magnet is just a first stage sort so you don't
have to manually weed out Cu/Ni, Aluminum and other non-magnetic stuff one coin at
a time. You still have to know what's Nickel and what's not for the 2nd stage of the sort,
though you now have less overall volume to go through than if you didn't use the magnet
to pre-sort.
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby dirty fingers » Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:02 am

scyther wrote:Is there a type of magnet that will attract nickel but not steel?


These do not attract Ni better than steel, if it is a magnetic attracted material, it will be attracted. But the pair of these work GREAT at pulling out the magnetic ones, and can attract quite a bit before you clean them off and look for more. I put these 2 together, the flat disc being the 'pull' magnet, and the thin rod is stuck to the flat disc, and used like a handle.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DY02
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kjmagnetics has a LOT of good magnets, and the prices are not bad at all. I have bought from them several times in the past. Always a good vendor.

This small magnet is one of my favorites. It works GREAT to self test silver (999, 90%, sterling or even 80%). http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=D71-N52 That one is an N52 variety, which is the strongest of all Neodymium currently available. There are vids out there, showing how to use a magnet like this to test for silver (I think it works for gold also). It simply slides very slowly down high silver content flat-ish surfaces (like a coin or bar).
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Re: Foreign Nickel

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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby johnbrickner » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:04 am

henrysmedford wrote:I made a printable list of the Foreign Nickel using http://currencydebasement.com/high-nickel

You can print it out here. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1OpiX_kvNjtemV5ZUh6alpESkk/edit?usp=drive_web


Thanks for doing the work, it is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby henrysmedford » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:11 am

johnbrickner wrote:
henrysmedford wrote:I made a printable list of the Foreign Nickel using http://currencydebasement.com/high-nickel

You can print it out here. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1OpiX_kvNjtemV5ZUh6alpESkk/edit?usp=drive_web


Thanks for doing the work, it is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby johnbrickner » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:34 am

Oh, and getting quick access to it is even better!
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby PureNickel » Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:30 pm

So ... The first pure nickel coin minted was the 1881 20 rappen (Switzerland) and the last was the 2007 1 lira (Malta)? Any regular circulation coins currently minted in pure nickel?
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby PureNickel » Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:37 pm

Probably no coincidence that the last minting of pure nickel coins stopped during the year when nickel reached its peak prices of $23+/pound in April 2007
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby PureNickel » Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:43 pm

Of course, adopting the Euro in 2007 might have had something to do with it
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby Recyclersteve » Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:48 am

First I need to belatedly thank Cerulean for his/her very detailed post over 3 1/2 years ago.

But I wanted to take things in a slightly different direction. I wanted to make a list of only coins which are pure nickel and could be found in foreign coin bins without too much difficulty. So I've eliminated plated and bi-metallic issues. Also, I've eliminated coins from countries where it is hard to know the origin without matching photos (i.e., India, Japan, etc.). Also not included are Canadian 10c, 25c, 50c, and $1 coins- even though many of them are made of nickel, they aren't close to being worth saving like the pre-'82 nickels are. Also, I've eliminated those that were only made for a single year or were made before 1960. Two exceptions to the pre-60 rule are Canadian nickels and also issues from other countries which began before 1960 but were made after 1960 as well.

My purpose in doing this is so that the user can have a short list to take with them when going through buckets of foreign coins, rather than having to lug around a big thick Krause catalog. I've also included the weights in grams for each coin. Please let me know about any errors or omissions. This should be considered a work in progress and should not be considered to be a perfect list. Here goes:

CONDENSED FOREIGN COIN LIST:

ANGOLA- 20 escudos 1971-72 (12.06g)

BAHAMAS- 25 cents 1966-89 (6.9g)

BELGIUM- 10 francs 1969-79 (8g); 50 francs 1987-2001 (7g)

CANADA- 5 cents (100%) 1922-42 (only round, not 12-sided 1942's) ; 1946-50; 1951 (only round coin with nickel refinery, not 12-sided); 1955-81 (4.5-4.6g)

EL SALVADOR- 25 centavos 1970-77 (2 1/2g); 50 centavos 1970-77 (5-5.1g)

FRANCE- ½ franc 1965-2001 (4 1/2g); 1 franc 1960-2001 (6g); 2 francs 1979-2001 (7 1/2g)

FRENCH POLYNESIA- 10 francs 1967-2005 (6g); 20 francs 1967-2005 (10g); 50 francs 1967-2005 (15g)

HUNGARY- 5 forint 1971-82 (5.73g) (some 83's); 10 forint 1971-82 (8.83g) (some 83's)

LUXEMBOURG- 10 francs 1971-80 (8.2g); 50 francs 1987-90 (7.02g) (91-95 in sets only)

MACAU- 1 pataca 1968-75 (10.6g)

MALTA- 1 lira 1986-2007 (13.09g)

NETHERLANDS- 10 cents 1948-2001 (1 1/2g); 25 cents 1948-2001 (3g); 1 gulden 1967-2001 (6g) (some 67's had silver); 2.5 gulden 1969-2001 (10g)

NETH. ANTILLES- 10 cents 1970-85 (2g); 25 cents 1970-85 (3 1/2g); 1 gulden 1970-85 (9g) (some 70's had silver); 2.5 gulden 1978-85 (14g)

SOUTH AFRICA- 5 cents 1965-89 (2 1/2g); 10 cents 1965-89 (4g); 20 cents 1965-90 (6g); 50 cents 1965-90 (9 1/2g) (some 90's only 5g- not worth svg.); 1 rand 1977-90 (12g) (15g coins are silver- also 4g coins are bi-metallic)

VENEZUELA- 25 centimos 1965-87 (1 1/2-1 3/4g); 50 centimos 1965-85 (3 1/2g); 1 bolivar 1967-86 (5g); 2 bolivares 1967-88 (8.6g); 5 bolivares 1973-88 (15g)
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby cooyon » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:36 pm

Thanks a lot for making this short list, we have a local coin show 10 days from today, I'll let you know afterwards how useful it was.
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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby Cu Penny Hoarder » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:16 pm

NiBullionCu wrote:Great list Cerulean!

One correction, France 5 francs 1970-2001 is Nickel-clad-CuNi

Numismaster online has this incorrectly listed as Nickel.
(I've reported the error months ago, but they seem pretty slow on updating reported errors).

the older Krause catalogs have it correct. In hand you can tell the difference as this coin is only lightly magnetic compared to pure nickel.

Otherwise superb list!



Can someone please tell me exactly how much nickel is in the French 5 Franc made from 1970 on. All the books say: "nickel clad-copper nickel".

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Re: Foreign Nickel

Postby mtalbot_ca » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:32 pm

I found a site: http://www.pubachat.com/5-francs-semeuse-nickel-1970-2001.php look at the bottom of the page.

It claims that it is the standard 25% copper, 75% nickel.

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