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fasteddy wrote:I will give you all the 275 gallon totes that you can carry....come and get'um. Houston, Texas.

I use the 275 gallon totes for non drinking water supply.

Merwanseth wrote:This may not be the exact right topic for this entry. But it's close enough.

As a health care provider, I have read quite a bit of research concerning the issue of "hydration". Although there is some minor disagreement by different experts concerning exactly what the definition of "appropriate hydration" consists of, most experts agree that it's a lot more than the average person thinks it is.

One of the more impressive studies that I have read, from a major college health center, that contained well over a thousand subjects, had many observations and conclusions. For the purpose of this entry, I'll only offer one of the observations and conclusions.

That is that the average American is not even close to being properly hydrated. And that if he is not properly hydrated that that fact alone will likely and significantly affect his present and especially his future health. (I could go into the biochemical reasons for this statement, but I'd rather not bore most of you.) This study went further to offer a general formula to suggest how the average person can be certain that he is likely to remain properly hydrated every day.

The basic formula the study described is to take ones body weight, change that number from pounds to ounces, and then divide by two. That is the number of ounces of clean water that everyone (unless they have a medical history which suggests otherwise,) should use as a goal to drink every day. For example, a 150 pound person should use as a goal to drink 75 ounces of clean water every day in order just to keep their body properly hydrated. That's just a little over a half gallon.

This number of ounces should be just water. If one wants to have milk, coffee, tea, juice, beer, wine, etc., that amount of a different beverage should not be used in calculating the amount of water one should drink, even if that beverage has water in it.

As a caveat, please remember that every person is different and has a unique set of genetic and environmental-related health issues presently within his body. Thus, this formula is only given as a general formula to suggest an approximate amount of water that each person should ingest to be properly hydrated. Everyone should hopefully at least consider whether they are even close to that number when determining whether this extremely important health-related issue is being met.

And for the purpose of this topic, this formula will hopefully be helpful to consider as one is storing clean water for oneself and ones family.... for whatever reason(s) one chooses to store water...

frugi wrote:And if SHTF, it might be the only thing that saves the human body from it's weakness for its addiction to cooked and unhealthy sodium saturated fatty cancer causing poisons commonly mistaken as food.

Treetop wrote:Look for something called an IBC tote.

frugi wrote:I am glad you referred to it as the Average American. The Average American who eats large amounts of un-needed excess sodium, and consumes meat, dairy, and processed grains should be drinking that much water. They need that water to keep them from outright dying from the other poisons they put in their bodies disguised as nourishment. In fact, if you are a human being, and are eating what the human body was designed to eat, you would need far, far less water than suggested above. When a human being drinks the amount as suggested by the Gov't, the doctors, or the above recommendation they will only find over time it wears out your kidneys at a super increased rate. Your kidneys were only designed to last 200 years. By drinking three times what is actually needed you wear your kidneys out three times faster. A human being that eats what we human beings were intended to eat would never need to drink a glass or a bottle of water ever. I could list 10 pages of foods we are designed to eat, but to save time and keep it simple, here is a short list: tomatoes, grapefruit, oranges, watermelon, grapes, bananas, avocados, berries of all kinds, leafy green vegetables of all kinds, lettuces, chard, sea vegetables (seaweed), any of the thousands of different types of fruits that exist in the world, root vegetables, and any of the thousands of vegetables that exist in the world. The water found within these raw fruits and vegetables is purified through nature, and contains all the vitamins and minerals the body needs. This is a fact. However, the average american consumes such a level of poisons that without the constant flushing of water that the tap provides we would be dead quickly. Our bodies were designed to thrive for 200-300 years, it is a matter of inherited genes, eating lifestyles, lack of clean atmosphere, and lack of physical fitness as to what contributes to our early deaths at the young ages of 70-90 years old. When considering a storage of "water" for your SHTF prepps , by all means have bottled water on hand enough to have 64 oz to 100 oz a day for drinking, but consider a fruit and vegetable garden as well. And if SHTF, it might be the only thing that saves the human body from it's weakness for its addiction to cooked and unhealthy sodium saturated fatty cancer causing poisons commonly mistaken as food.

Treetop wrote:

frugi wrote:I am glad you referred to it as the Average American. The Average American who eats large amounts of un-needed excess sodium, and consumes meat, dairy, and processed grains should be drinking that much water. They need that water to keep them from outright dying from the other poisons they put in their bodies disguised as nourishment. In fact, if you are a human being, and are eating what the human body was designed to eat, you would need far, far less water than suggested above. When a human being drinks the amount as suggested by the Gov't, the doctors, or the above recommendation they will only find over time it wears out your kidneys at a super increased rate. Your kidneys were only designed to last 200 years. By drinking three times what is actually needed you wear your kidneys out three times faster. A human being that eats what we human beings were intended to eat would never need to drink a glass or a bottle of water ever. I could list 10 pages of foods we are designed to eat, but to save time and keep it simple, here is a short list: tomatoes, grapefruit, oranges, watermelon, grapes, bananas, avocados, berries of all kinds, leafy green vegetables of all kinds, lettuces, chard, sea vegetables (seaweed), any of the thousands of different types of fruits that exist in the world, root vegetables, and any of the thousands of vegetables that exist in the world. The water found within these raw fruits and vegetables is purified through nature, and contains all the vitamins and minerals the body needs. This is a fact. However, the average american consumes such a level of poisons that without the constant flushing of water that the tap provides we would be dead quickly. Our bodies were designed to thrive for 200-300 years, it is a matter of inherited genes, eating lifestyles, lack of clean atmosphere, and lack of physical fitness as to what contributes to our early deaths at the young ages of 70-90 years old. When considering a storage of "water" for your SHTF prepps , by all means have bottled water on hand enough to have 64 oz to 100 oz a day for drinking, but consider a fruit and vegetable garden as well. And if SHTF, it might be the only thing that saves the human body from it's weakness for its addiction to cooked and unhealthy sodium saturated fatty cancer causing poisons commonly mistaken as food.

If you are still around, I dont believe you at all. I have trouble doing basic tasks without eating meat regularly. Some claim blood type matters and type o needs more meat which I am, but either way Ive tried going vegen even with heavy supplementation available in no era before mine and it just doesnt work. Its doubtful youd even have the brain to type what you did if your ancestors werent meat eaters. I found it especially interesting you mentioned root veggies when we didnt evolve to be ablfew e to eat those until well after we had been eating meats. It was a huge advantage to humanity according to sciences understanding of things. If christians are right instead then we ate meat from the first few people in the bible. When I first read actual studies on this topic studies out of india stuck out. Since ghandi theyve had a bunch of vegans and vegetarians. Yet he himself would regularly drink goat milk whhen he felt to weak as a vegan. These studies out of india strongly implied the vegans would become a sub species of humans with smaller brains. Several years later I tried showing these studies to a friend and as best I can find thy dont exist online anymore.. In the west wee have many studies that show veganism and vegetarianism leads to brain issues. If you look briefly you may find several "studies" that im ply no meat is better but the single study Ive found that account for meat eating itself versu plant eating, where they excluded those who eat processed meats with nitrates, the meat eaters had WAY less issues. There is a famous :china ""study" on this. Im not even joking. The study was literally one scientist with lots of data ignoring ALL data that didnt fit his beliefs. If you look into it enough youll find the actual study china did on this was statistical and showed meat as a slight positive for women and neutral for men. What is known as the "chiina study" is pure propaganda.

If you show back up here Im completely open to finding out Im wrong but I doubt it. Humans NEED meat to be at thier optimal levels. Processed meats with nitrates excluded. ( even from celery lol)