Safest Fiat Currency?

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Safest Currency

US Dollar
7
12%
Euro
1
2%
Yen
0
No votes
Sterling
1
2%
Franc
13
23%
Can. Dollar
17
30%
Aus. Dollar
9
16%
Norway Kr
0
No votes
Swedish Kr
4
7%
Other
5
9%
 
Total votes : 57

Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby AGgressive Metal » Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:38 am

Obviously unbacked paper always has inflation risk, so this is a relative question:

I would say its clearly not USD or Sterling, but they are in the Big Five, so I included them. A deflationist would say USD is just fine, so its open to debate!
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby AGgressive Metal » Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:42 am

Personally, I'd say its a contest between Norway and Switzerland.
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby Mossy » Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:18 pm

"Swiss franc" or "French franc"? Swiss might be the least unsafe of the whole lot, considering how much illegal money they take in and their hard headed bankers, but I "put not my faith in faith money".
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby AGgressive Metal » Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:21 pm

French Franc no longer exists ;)

Swiss Central bank is probably the most conservative and responsible in the world in their holdings. They are also have 36 million ounces of gold. :D
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby Mossy » Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:09 pm

Swiss it is, then. I thought you meant the French franc and snickered at it.
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby aloneibreak » Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:28 pm

the aussie dollar gets my vote

good economy and not much government meddling
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby TXTim » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:09 pm

Where's the yuan?
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby AGgressive Metal » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:48 pm

TXTim wrote:Where's the yuan?


Its pegged to the US dollar so I left it out, but that is what the "other" is for! :D
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby AGgressive Metal » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:50 pm

This is a good survey so far - lots of opinions. It looks like Canadian Dollar and Swiss Franc are tied at 3 votes each currently.
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby AGgressive Metal » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:52 pm

aloneibreak wrote:the aussie dollar gets my vote

good economy and not much government meddling


I think the best part about the aussie dollar is that it offers very high interest rates compared to other first world countries. But its still nothing next to the gains in gold and silver. :)
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby Know Common Cents » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:48 pm

My vote was for the $ of our friendly neighbor to the North. I've been watching the rise this week of the Singapore dollar. It's at an all-time high against the US buck. This seems to be a big deal in the international markets, but I haven't been able to find out the reason why this is happening.
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby AGgressive Metal » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:03 am

Singapore is basically a capitalist paradise, other than gun laws. Along with Hong Kong its one of the last bastions of serious economic freedom. My guess is that they don't feel the need to print a lot of money since they have a dependable tax base and small government.
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby Derek.Sheriff » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:58 am

The yuan was unpegged from the USD last June. It gets my vote.
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby Market Harmony » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:31 am

Oz Dollar for me... huge (and I mean VAST) resource reserves in the ground. Divide that wealth by the number of Australians, and that's why I like the AUD over the others.

odd fact: During the Thanksgiving holiday travel season, the United States has more people in airplanes than the Australians have on the ground
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby Lemon Thrower » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:23 pm

norway or switzerland have significantly fewer problems than the others. don't know much about Sweden.

however, the CHF has appreciated substantially and is hurting exports and thus tax revenues.

Norway is tied to oil and has a small population, so small changes can have a big effect.

trying to pick the best currency is like being the tallest midget. its a fools' errand
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby 68Camaro » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:28 pm

I voted Swiss Franc, based on the literal survey wording. If it had been worded differently - most practical relatively-safe currency for North Americans - I might have voted for the CDN-$. I don't view the Chinese Yuan as terribly safe at this point for several reasons, the most compelling is that while the Chinese may be making efforts to move to a non-fiat currency, until they complete that (if they do), they are at risk for a horrible crash themselves.

Disagree that it's a "fools errand" - but it is a mostly academic exercise.
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby Lemon Thrower » Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:42 pm

CDN's main customer is the U.S. Thats a big risk.

similar for Australia - main customer is china.
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby Know Common Cents » Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:05 pm

Swiss franc is leaving all others in its wake. Really strong showing today against the US $ and the Euro. Makes me wonder if this and a new all-time high for gold is more than a coincidence.
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby Copper Catcher » Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:22 pm

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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby AGgressive Metal » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:32 pm

I am surprised Canada is winning. They won't let the Loonie rise too much above the US Dollar because we are their main trading partner. Even if it has good fundamentals, their Central Bank won't allow it to appreciate much.
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby Verbane » Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:16 pm

AGgressive Metal wrote:I am surprised Canada is winning. They won't let the Loonie rise too much above the US Dollar because we are their main trading partner. Even if it has good fundamentals, their Central Bank won't allow it to appreciate much.


I believe this is exactly why Canada is winning this poll as a reserve currency. Considering land mass and the accompanying natural resources, they have the option to allow the Loonie hover near the Dollar. How long will the Canadian Central Bank allow forced depreciation against the Dollar if Obammy can't learn how to wear big boy pants? There has to be a breaking point.
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby reddirtcoins » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:46 pm

Yep... Yuan is looking like I might need to get some. There is a bank in NY now..
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby rulesforrebels » Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:05 pm

im gonna say vietnam dong or iraqi dinar...lol...just kidding. i like the swiss franc although they are actuallytrying to devalue their currency right now as its bad for trade and tourism. a cup of coffee costs something like $8 or $9 right now
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby AGgressive Metal » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:32 pm

This was a good thread, thought I would revive it.
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Re: Safest Fiat Currency?

Postby Copper Catcher » Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:21 pm

What? I did not see the: ADAM Youngs Currency listed?
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